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		<title>A Human Rights Watch report on the syste &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://talkislam.info/2008/09/25/a-human-rights-watch-report-on-the-syste/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>aziz</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[A Human Rights Watch report on the systematic discrimination against the Ismaili community in Saudi Arabia has drawn Saudi intellectuals and politicians together into defensive denial.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Human Rights Watch report on the <a href="http://www.hrw.org/reports/2008/saudiarabia0908/">systematic discrimination against the Ismaili community</a> in Saudi Arabia has drawn Saudi intellectuals and politicians together into <a href="http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/saudi_arabia/10247050.html">defensive denial</a>.</p>
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		<title>isn&#8217;t it interesting that despite sunn &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://talkislam.info/2008/09/10/isnt-it-interesting-that-despite-sunn/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>razib</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[ isn&#8217;t it interesting that despite sunni muslims outnumbering shia in pakistan 4:1 a prominent shia family such as the bhuttos could acquire political power?  the current PM, benazir, her father.  yahya khan and jinnah were also from shia backgrounds.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> isn&#8217;t it interesting that despite sunni muslims outnumbering shia in pakistan 4:1 a prominent shia family such as the bhuttos could acquire political power?  the current PM, benazir, her father.  yahya khan and jinnah were also from shia backgrounds.</p>
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		<title>child abuse</title>
		<link>http://talkislam.info/2008/08/19/child-abuse/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>aziz</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[regarding the forced ritual flogging of young boys - 
the issue really serves to highlight the necessity of governmental oversight of religious practice. Not to define what religious practices are &#8220;correct&#8221; or not, but rather to simply be blind to religion when evaluating issues against the law. The question of whether self-flagellation is an authentic [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>regarding the forced <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/manchester/7568953.stm">ritual flogging of young boys</a> - </p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://shiapundit.blogspot.com/2008/08/child-abuse.html">the issue</a> really serves to highlight the necessity of governmental oversight of religious practice. Not to define what religious practices are &#8220;correct&#8221; or not, but rather to simply be blind to religion when evaluating issues against the law. The question of whether self-flagellation is an authentic Islamic or Shi&#8217;a practice is a (bloody) red herring - the question is simply whether the actions violated Law. And they did, so Mr. Zaidi needs to be prosecuted accordingly. Bringing this issue into the domain of religious freedom only serves to cloud the issue, and taint the entire muslim community, Sunni and Shi&#8217;a alike.</p></blockquote>
<p>good <a href="http://www.deenport.com/main/messages/viewtopic.php?t=21814">discussion at Deenport</a>, also, particularly this comment:</p>
<blockquote><p>apart from the (elected) government, who else can provide public safeguards when religious practices veer into problematic areas, for instance where they are forced upon those who are uncomfortable with them, or simply don&#8217;t accept them as &#8216;correct&#8217; religious practices?</p>
<p>I do believe that ultimately, these safeguards protect religious minorities even while they impose limits on public manifestations of religion. Do we need protecting from ourselves? I think that sometimes we do&#8230;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>The state&#8217;s need to define &#8216;religion&#8217; &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://talkislam.info/2008/08/18/the-states-need-to-define-religion/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 02:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>thabet</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[The state&#8217;s need to define &#8216;religion&#8217;: The trial of a man who whipped himself during a ritual ceremony and then allegedly forced two teenage boys to do the same, has begun in Manchester.

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		<title>my review of a history of iran is up.  o &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://talkislam.info/2008/07/05/my-review-of-a-history-of-iran-is-up-o/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 20:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>razib</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[my review of a history of iran is up.  one thing that surprises many people is that iran/persia as a shia domain is a function of the forced conversion of the sunni populace by the safavid turkish dynasty from eastern anatolia during the 16th century.  though there were shia dynasties and regions within [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/gnxp/2008/07/a_history_of_iran_empire_of_th.php">review of <i>a history of iran</i> is up</a>.  one thing that surprises many people is that iran/persia as a shia domain is a function of the forced conversion of the sunni populace by the safavid turkish dynasty from eastern anatolia during the 16th century.  though there were shia dynasties and regions within iran, </p>
<p>1) they were not notable in persistence vis-a-vis other regions<br />
2) they tend to be temporally placed further back in time when shia-sunni distinctions were more fluid (e.g., the buyids were shia persians, but during a time before sunni islam had crystallized as a coherent counter-narrative to shi&#8217;ism).</p>
<p>p.s. two of the four schools of sunni jurisprudence were founded by ethnic persians, the hanafi (the most numerous) and hanbali (the favorite of salafists)</p>
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