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		<title>Looks we may have finally moved from stem &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://talkislam.info/2008/11/19/looks-we-may-have-finally-moved-from-stem/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>thabet</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks we may have finally moved from stem cell science to stem cell medicine.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks we may have finally moved from stem cell science to <a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/11/19/windpipe.transplant/?imw=Y&amp;iref=mpstoryemail" rel="external">stem cell medicine</a>.</p>
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		<title>ok, i went to a research presentation re &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://talkislam.info/2008/11/16/ok-i-went-to-a-research-presentation-re/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>razib</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[ok, i went to a presentation recently where jean-laurent casanova reported data which suggest that most deaths due to infectious diseases are necessarily due to genetic predisposition, and not necessarily due to infection as such.  casanova presents data which show that almost all humans are infected with a host of pathogens which only kill a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok, i went to a presentation recently where <a href="http://www.hhmi.org/research/scholars/casanova_bio.html">jean-laurent casanova</a> reported data which suggest that most deaths due to infectious diseases are necessarily due to genetic predisposition, and not necessarily due to infection as such.  casanova presents data which show that almost all humans are infected with a host of pathogens which only kill a small minority, generally children and the old.  infection is sufficient &amp; necessary for manifestation of disease, but casanova suggests that a particular genetic profile is necessary, and some profiles predispose one to death.</p>
<p>what relevance does this have to islam?  re: the contention that cousin marriage does not cause abnormality, i pointed out the prevalence of recessive diseases among this group. casanova shows that out of a tiny minority of children that die from certain rare infectious diseases in the western world, <strong>10% are the offspring of cousins.</strong> this strongly implies recessive alleles which only are unmasked when close relatives produce progeny, but it also points to likely higher overall rates of infection for the children of cousins even if the don&#8217;t die.  a higher rate of flu &amp; other respiratory ailments for children, etc., in one&#8217;s lifetime isn&#8217;t, in my opinion, a strong reason for why cousins should not marry IMO, but, it does suggest that those who make the claim that cousin marriage (at least first cousin marriage) is totally without cost aren&#8217;t correct.</p>
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		<title>modern geocentrism. it isn&#8217;t just  saud &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://talkislam.info/2008/11/16/modern-geocentrism-it-isnt-just-saud/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 06:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>razib</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[modern geocentrism. it isn&#8217;t just  saudi thing&#8230;.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_geocentrism#Catholic_geocentricity">modern geocentrism</a>. it isn&#8217;t just  saudi thing&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Do you have some marginal time today?  W &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://talkislam.info/2008/11/10/do-you-have-some-marginal-time-today-w/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>razib</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you have some marginal time today?  Well, now you really don&#8217;t, play around with the HGDP browser.  If you click and find yourself a bit bewildered, read Do It Yourself: searching for evolution&#8217;s signature in 53 human populations over at Genetic Future.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have some marginal time today?  Well, now you really don&#8217;t, play around with the <a href="http://hgdp.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/gbrowse/HGDP/">HGDP browser</a>.  If you click and find yourself a bit bewildered, read <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/geneticfuture/2008/11/diy_searching_for_evolutions_signa.php">Do It Yourself: searching for evolution&#8217;s signature in 53 human populations</a> over at <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/geneticfuture/2008/11/diy_searching_for_evolutions_signa.php">Genetic Future</a>.</p>
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		<title>Adnan Oktar offers &#8220;10 trillion Turkish &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://talkislam.info/2008/10/11/adnan-oktar-offers-10-trillion-turkish/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 10:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>thabet</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Adnan Oktar offers &#8220;10 trillion Turkish lira to anyone who produces a single intermediate-form fossil demonstrating evolution&#8221; (about 4.5 trillion quid).
Delusions of grandeur.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adnan Oktar offers <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/creationist-offers-prize-for-fossil-proof-of-evolution-945289.html" rel="external">&#8220;10 trillion Turkish lira to anyone who produces a single intermediate-form fossil demonstrating evolution&#8221;</a> (about 4.5 trillion quid).</p>
<p>Delusions of grandeur.</p>
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		<title>Evolution, why it still happens (in pict &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://talkislam.info/2008/10/08/evolution-why-it-still-happens-in-pict/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 09:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>razib</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Evolution, why it still happens (in pictures).

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/gnxp/2008/10/evolution_in_pictures_why_it_s.php">Evolution, why it still happens (in pictures)</a>.</p>
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		<title>The values of science: The BBC&#8217;s HARDta &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://talkislam.info/2008/10/08/the-values-of-science-the-bbcs-hardta/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 06:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The values of science: The BBC&#8217;s HARDtalk recently interviewed Tom Pike, a scientist working on the Phoenix Mars Mission, and asked him whether scientists should be focusing on the immediate problems facing people on Earth.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The values of science:</strong> The <a rel="external" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/hardtalk/7647915.stm">BBC&#8217;s HARDtalk</a> recently interviewed <a rel="external" href="http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/opticalandsemidev/aboutthegroup/people/academicstaff/pike">Tom Pike</a>, a scientist working on the <a href="http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/" target="_blank">Phoenix Mars Mission</a>, and asked him whether scientists should be focusing on the immediate problems facing people on Earth.</p>
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		<title>human evolution is not ending.</title>
		<link>http://talkislam.info/2008/10/07/human-evolution-is-not-ending/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 07:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/gnxp/2008/10/no_evolution_isnt_ending_virgi.php">human evolution is not ending</a>.</p>
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		<title>Richard Dawkins&#8217; official website has b &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://talkislam.info/2008/09/19/richard-dawkins-official-website-has-b/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>thabet</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Richard Dawkins&#8217; official website has been blocked in Turkey, following a complaint from the team behind the Harun Yahya organisation.
Stupid.
Usama Hasan, meanwhile, criticises Muslims for their &#8220;childlike&#8221; view of evolution, and science in general.
There&#8217;s an attempted response by Adam Deen, a Muslim blogger, to Hasan&#8217;s views on the need to reconcile evolution with their religious [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Dawkins&#8217; official website <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/sep/19/religion.turkey?gusrc=rss&amp;feed=networkfront" target="_blank">has been blocked in Turkey</a>, following a complaint from the team behind the Harun Yahya organisation.</p>
<p>Stupid.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mdx.ac.uk/cs/staff/academics/u_hassan.asp" target="_blank">Usama Hasan</a>, meanwhile, criticises Muslims for their <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/11/religion.darwinbicentenary" target="_blank">&#8220;childlike&#8221;</a> view of evolution, and science in general.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s an attempted response by <a href="http://adamdeen.blogspot.com/2008/09/responding-to-usama-hasans-muslim-apes.html" target="_blank">Adam Deen</a>, a Muslim blogger, to Hasan&#8217;s views on the need to reconcile evolution with their religious beliefs. Although, I am not sure it is much of a response, and only seems to underline Hasan&#8217;s argument about Muslims indulging in bad science&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Update:</strong> <a href="http://talkislam.info/2008/09/19/richard-dawkins-official-website-has-b/#comment-2485" target="_blank">Abu Hasan</a> in the comments links to another response to Usama Hasan&#8217;s article at <a href="http://ummahpulse.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=453&amp;Itemid=38" target="_blank">Ummah Pulse</a>. I don&#8217;t think the piece deserves any sort of serious analysis, but at least the author of that piece doesn&#8217;t copy and paste snippets of &#8220;evidence&#8221; found at creationist websites.</p>
<p>And please note: I am not saying Usama Hasan or his views are beyond criticism.</p>
<p><strong>Related:</strong> See an earlier <a href="http://talkislam.info/2008/08/19/richard-dawkins-told-a-session-of-the-ed/" target="_blank">Talk Islam</a> post on Richard Dawkins&#8217; views about Muslim creationism and read about the <a href="http://talkislam.info/2008/07/21/when-muslims-and-christians-unite-cbc-r/" target="_blank">role of the Turkish military establishment</a> in pushing creationism into the mainstream.</p>
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		<title>Razib has a great post at GNXP/SB, point &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://talkislam.info/2008/09/11/razib-has-a-great-post-at-gnxpsb-point/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Razib has a great post at GNXP/SB, pointing out that science is rational, but scientists are not.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Razib has a great post at GNXP/SB, pointing out that <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/gnxp/2008/09/science_is_rational_scientists.php">science is rational, but scientists are not</a>.</p>
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