So, it seems Obama’s Special Governor Of Uppity Muslims, Rashad Hussein was keen to be a big man and attack Muslim citizens around the world when they questioned US foreign policy, but his balls seem to have shrunk when faced with the racist far-right loonies in the US:
Now the American Islamic College (AIC) and the OIC is jointly organizing a conference from September 28-30 on the topic of “Islam and Muslims in America” to be held at the AIC. Rashad Hussein was one of the headline speakers for the conference and his presence was essentially a sure thing considering that his JOB is to be the special envoy to the OIC. The Islamophobe-sphere went buck wild when they heard that Hussain would be a speaker and responded with their usual hate smears calling it a “supremacist gathering,” a “Muslim Brotherhood event,” throwing in all the usual buzz words and the kitchen sink like “Hamas,” “Shariah,” “Khilafah,” yada yada.
In light of these attacks Rashad Hussain canceled his scheduled speech at the conference last minute citing a “scheduling conflict” according to the emcee (hat tip: Joel).
Are you serious? So at the last minute the Special Envoy to the OIC has a “scheduling conflict”? What possible “scheduling conflict” would keep the special envoy to the OIC from attending a major OIC conference right here in the United States, in fact in his hometown? Did he have another scheduled event at the OIP (Organization of Intimidated Pushovers)?
thabet, 
shams, and 
Abu Noor Al-Irlandee are discussing. 
shams 6:43 pm on September 30, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply
thass ur homies brother thabet.
you don’t get to be switzerland.
choose a side.
thabet 1:56 am on October 1, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply
I am on the side of this man:
shams 6:19 am on October 1, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply
me too.
thabet 5:07 pm on October 1, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply
Obama and Rashad Hussein are not.
That’s my point.
shams 5:38 am on October 2, 2010 Permalink
i think Obama agrees with Rizvi, historically on proximate cause of terrorism and accountability……it is just that he is not empowered to arbitrarily right the wrongs, because the american people do not agree with Rizvi.
Obama is not king.
The democrats agreed not to impeach Bush before Obama took office.
Obama is the CinC. I imagine he has extremely pragmatic reasons for not showcasing the horrorshow that was the Bush torture adminstration.
I personally would like to see Bush and Cheney prosecuted to the full extent of international law….Blair too.
I personally would like Gitmo and Bagram closed.
I personally would like us to leave Afghanistan and Iraq RIGHT NAOW.
But that is not representative government in America.
thabet 11:15 am on October 2, 2010 Permalink
You think he agrees with people like Rizvi because he is a ‘prophet’ (small ‘p’) like figure playing some secret mystical game beyond mere mortals.
I do not, because I see him as part of the same system as Bush et al. Crucially all my evidence is in plain sight and does not rely on assuming this or that (e.g. you say yourself you ‘imagine’ his reasons for opposing punishment of Bush-era crimes). My points always rest simply on his own words and his own actions.
Only right-wing lunatics and white liberals seem to be so enthralled by Obama’s personality (for different reasons, of course) whereas I am not (he represents nothing I can identify with).
Abu Noor Al-Irlandee 11:29 am on October 2, 2010 Permalink
Thabet,
As you know I agree with you on your critique of Obama. To a certain extent I agree with Shams when she talks about what is possible “within the system” and this is why I am seriously skeptical that change within the system is even possible. But while it is easy to attack right wing lunatics and white liberals, to be honest Blackamericans are largely enthralled with Obama as well (including Blackamerican Muslims, especially of the older generation.) Despite the fact that there is a depression in Blackamerica and little if anything is even being done to address it, Obama remains wildly popular among Blackamericans as well.
shams 1:27 pm on October 2, 2010 Permalink
the kind of person you want Obama to could never have been elected. Im sry, but Obama isnt going to brief the world that he fears another Blackhawk Down before we can get our troops out.
It may happen anyways.
Obama was very good during the Green Wave in Iran– he stayed out. He told Bushes bioluddites to clear their desks and git. He reinstaed fed funding for eSCR. He got HCR passed. He got FinReg passed.
He isn’t superman, and hes not a king.
He does what he can.
tant pis its not enough for you.
I love Obama……im working on the campaign again.
so bite meh.
thabet 3:27 am on October 3, 2010 Permalink
Abu Noor, fair point on Black Americans. I concede that one, and I can see where it comes from. And good luck Shams. I don’t care if you campaign for him. As I said, I am sure he is good on the domestic scene.
I can see what you two are saying. The great modern philosophe Harry Callahan said the same in Magnum Force… Until a better system comes along, do the best with you have.
I actually thought he was doing ok on Israel (remain quiet let Israel dig itself even deeper), and can even see where he is coming from by remaining quiet on the flotilla killings. I thought fair enough, the man doesn’t deserve to be criticised for limitations of his office wrt Guantanamo. But now I don’t think the tiny baby steps are present at all.
Drone killings? Up under Obama. Rendition and torture? Continuing under Obama. Close Guantanamo, ok that’s may be hard for him. But Bagram will not be closed. The slavish covering-up and protection of Bush-era crimes? Just seems like another case of exceptionalism to me. And honestly, when you come on BBC Persia and start prattling on about Iranian state oppression — while remaining completely silent about what Bahrain was doing that very same week — what do you think the reaction should be? Herald the great mind games of Obama? No, it needs to be called out for the BS it is.
As LoA pointed out, militarism and empire are ‘mainstream’ American political positions (whether Republican or Democrat), and to be honest there seems to be no realisation of the dangers of this by the current administration given its behaviour so-far. This is the point made by a number of American commentators (hardcore left to sceptical right) too, so it’s not just the ramblings of a ‘limey’. Hence, my constant critique of Obama offering little real change (those military bases in far flung places aren’t about to close down even if they continue to really impact the local populace), although I am quite happy to agree that Obama offers a lot more intelligence than Bush.
shams 6:26 am on October 3, 2010 Permalink
ill give you the drones– that is just stupid.
i have written 20 mails on that.
But its rich being schooled by a brit– amg, you guys poisoned the world with the Raj. But that too was the biological basis of behavior.
The American president serves at the will of the people– and this is a judeoxian nation, a protestant nation. It is the biological basis of behavior.
That is why i got poleaxed by Islam. Abu-Noor fell in love with the heart of justice and the pure logic of shariah…..but I am ravished by the science of Islam.
Ihya Ulum al-Din
thabet 8:51 am on October 3, 2010 Permalink
Which ought to mean you should listen to me when I talk about empire
shams 11:52 am on October 3, 2010 Permalink
But Iraq and Afghanistan are not Empire.
They are examples of colonialism and missionarism….evangelizing judeoxian/westernstyle democracy.
Failed examples.
shams 11:55 am on October 3, 2010 Permalink
that is why you get Stupid People on the Right like D’inesh raving about Obama being a secret anti-colonial.
The wingnutfucktards that have been running our FP all LOVE COLONIALISM.
Its not Empire– its colonialism, missionarism, and proselytizing with guns.
shams 11:57 am on October 3, 2010 Permalink
and its NOT secular, enlightenment democracy.
its judeoxian democracy……its JESUS democracy.
thabet 3:01 pm on October 4, 2010 Permalink
I saw this a few days ago, and being a domestic US issue wasn’t going to post, but I think it is quite relevant here:
Abu Noor Al-Irlandee 10:13 am on October 3, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply
Good comments Thabet, but I’m not necessarily saying we should support him because there’s nothing better. I agree the alternative would be worse, but I think it’s damaging morally to support someone like that, and I certainly wouldn’t call for Muslims to follow in his footsteps. So, I encourage you to keep calling out Obama and especially someone like Rashad Hussein. I firmly believe electoral politics are a massive debilitating distraction at best and postively harmful in most cases. Electoral democracy in the west may be better than most alternatives and inshAllah it will be forced to reflect real societal change made through other means but it is not an arena in which real change can be brought to society.
Allah knows best.
shams 11:59 am on October 3, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply
well…if Obama is an anti-colonial like D’Souza says……isnt that the best we muslims can hope for out of Judeoxian America?
shams 12:04 pm on October 3, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply
and the real change coming to our society is the evolution of the new social compact– Social Democracy…..like HCR, like FinReg.
If Obama really was Bush redux wouldn’t he be trying to give CPR to the white patriarchy social cohesion model? The rightwing has been keeping that hoary old PVS rotting corpse on life support for years.
the republican party in this country is “the skeletal grasp of a corpse around eggs trying to hatch”.