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  • johnpi 1:46 pm on January 14, 2010 | 3 Permalink | Reply
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    Here’s the meat of Pat Robertson’s shameful comment about Haiti that you’ve probably already heard so much about:

    “Something happened a long time ago in Haiti and people might not want to talk about. They were under the heel of the French, you know Napoleon the third and whatever. And they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said ‘We will serve you if you will get us free from the prince.’ True story. And so the devil said, ‘Ok it’s a deal.’ And they kicked the French out. The Haitians revolted and got something themselves free. But ever since they have been cursed by one thing after another.”

    I took this excerpt from an article titled, ‘Christian fundamentalists bring shame to America,’ which also makes this observation:

    The Muslim world deals with this all the time. With 1.3 billion Muslims in the world over, even if only 3% are radical fundamentalists, their numbers are in the millions and they have come to represent the other 97%.

     
  • buzz 3:20 pm on October 14, 2009 | 0 Permalink | Reply
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    Sufism vs. Terrorism in the Punjab. Losing the battle for Pakistan’s poor.

    Good essay on the situation of poor Muslim communities…

    In recent history, the gap created due to the non-performance of Sufi shrines and Barelvi Islam, or the exploitative nature of these institutions, has been filled partly by the deobandi and Ahl-e-Hadith madrassa conversion teams and groups, such as the Tableeghi Jamaat, and militant outfits. This alternative, unfortunately, is equally exploitative in nature. Sadly, today the shrines and Barelvi Islam have little to offer in terms of “marketing” to counter the package deal offered by the Salafists for the life hereafter, especially to a shaheed: 70 hoors (virgins), a queen hoor (virgin queen), a crown of jewels and forgiveness for 70 additional people. This promise means a lot for the poor youth who cannot hope for any change in a pre-capitalist socio-economic and political environment, where power is hard to re-negotiate. Furthermore, as stated by the former information minister Mohammad Ali Durrani, who had been a jihadi from 1984-90, a poor youth suddenly turning into a jihadi commander is a tremendous story of social mobility and recognition that he would never get in his existing socio-economic system. More importantly, the Deobandis and Ahl-e-Hadith offer a textual basis for their package, which is difficult for the pirs to refute due to the lack of an internal religious discourse in the Islamic world. The modern generation of pirs has not engaged in an internal discourse to counter this ideological onslaught by the Salafis. The main belief of Salafism is that all Muslims should practice Islam as it was during the time of Prophet Muhammad. The religion at that time, according to them, was perfect. Salafism – which pre-dates Wahhabism – is often used interchangeably with Wahhabism, which is actually an extension of Salafism.

    Source article

     
  • buzz 1:38 pm on October 10, 2009 | 5 Permalink | Reply
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    Interesting piece in the American Muslim

    Problems with Hitchens and Islam

    Herman Roborgh, S.J.

    Modern atheists in the West and modernist Muslims in Islam are both abusing religion. Since the scientific revolution and the Enlightenment of the 17th and 18th centuries, some Western writers on religion and also some Muslim thinkers are interpreting their scriptures with a literalism that has become a characteristic of modernity. Their discourse about God has been influenced by the popular demand for scientific empirical verification, and they have lost confidence in the ability of figurative language to open a way to truth.
    Modern atheists like Dawkins and Hitchens make use of Enlightenment discourse to reduce God to a scientific hypothesis. Like other modernist writers, they presume that the Bible must provide scientific information since it claims to be inspired by God. Having failed to understand the nature of scripture and religion, they reject them both as products of the ‘God Delusion’.

    Both modern atheists in the West and Muslim modernists in Islamic countries adopt an abstract notion of religion that remains unaffected by the historical and social changes taking place in society. Hitchens’ oft-repeated phase, ‘religion poisons everything’, refers to an abstract religion devoid of morality and spirituality and with no concern for human rights.

    In the Muslim world, Sayyid Qutb (1906–1966) advocated a return to the pristine form of Islam that acknowledged God as the only Sovereign in all spheres of life. Abu A’la Mawdudi (1903–1979) developed a form of Islam in Pakistan that reduced the law of God to a code of commands and prohibitions that all pious believers were expected to accept and obey. An influential teacher in Indonesia today, Abu Bakar Ba’asyir, maintains that Muslims will be able to revive the quality of their life only by going back to models provided by the Prophet Muhammad and his companions in the seventh century.

    Modern atheists and modernist Muslims reach their extreme conclusions by bypassing the intellectual tradition of the Abrahamic religions. Traditional religious discourse has always been familiar with realities that take us beyond empirical observation and measurement, respecting the language of myth and symbol.

    continues…

     
  • abunoor 2:13 pm on October 6, 2009 | 24 Permalink | Reply
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    Andrew Sullivan linked to this from a Jerry Coyne post today.

    Dan Dennett talked about interviews with active priests and ministers who are atheists, and also mounted a hilarious attack on theologians like Karen Armstrong, who mouth pious nonsense like, “God is the God behind God.” Dennett calls this kind of language a “deepity”: a statement that has two meanings, one of which is true but superficial, the other which sounds profound but is meaningless. His exemplar of a deepity is the statement “Love is just a word.” True, it’s a word like “cheeseburger,” but the supposed deeper sense is wrong: love is an emotion, a feeling, a condition, and not just a word in the dictionary. He gave several examples of other deepities from academic theologians; when you see these things laid out — ripped from their texts — in a Powerpoint slide, they make you realize how truly fatuous are the lucubrations of people like Armstrong, Eagleton, and Haught. Sarcasm will be the best weapon against this stuff.

    Look, I like Mr. Sullivan and Ms. Armstrong, I like Chris Hedges. I like Mr. Eagleton. I like Robert Wright. I don’t like the New Atheists.

    At the same time, there is something that is correct in this critique by Mr. Coyne (whom I don’t like). I, frankly, don’t believe in the God of the philosophers, I believe in the God of the prophets. While the aforementioned liberal intellectual types who are sympathetic to religion use flowery language (which is good!), their message is essentially extremely demeaning to people with traditional religious beliefs.

    I also get Sullivan’s point that the new Atheists do not demonstrate an understanding of the complex intellectual traditions of the monotheistic faiths, who each have had their share of extremely smart followers over the years.

    I guess all this means that I’m a “fundamentalist”, and so it’s to be expected that my idea of God is closer to the Atheists than to the liberal intellectuals….hmmm…I guess we already knew that…so why is it again that I like people like Armstrong and Hedges who speak against “fundamentalism” as much as the New Atheists do?

     
  • thabet 7:24 am on October 4, 2009 | 8 Permalink | Reply
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    Buried in this lengthy and typically meandering essay (good luck reading it) by Slavoj Zizek is this interesting fact claim:

    Kansas, the US homegrown version of Afghanistan[,] was till the 1970s the bedrock of radical Leftist populism, is today the bedrock of Christian fundamentalism.

    Zizek’s contention is that failure of leftist movements leads to an upsurge in fundamentalism (he cites any number of Muslim countries). That might be an interesting point for debate, but I found the above interesting in and of itself. Anyone who knows more (i.e. Americans) care to comment? The source for the above claim is What’s the Matter with Kansas? How Conservatives Won the Heart of America.

     
  • buzz 1:11 am on September 30, 2009 | 62 Permalink | Reply
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    2001monolith

    Worship services at the first (and last) unsplintered monolithic religion

    Every simpleton who watches Fox news knows clearly that while we ’speak’ of moderate and extreme Muslims…in fact, they are all one fatwa away from being radicalized. Rifqa Bary has made this quite clear.

    So it goes with Christianity in the dreaded “Fitnutz” debate. While abrogation has been defined and refined, one thing most of you involved in the discussion will agree on is that Christians are all idiots who believe exactly the same thing: the Divinity, the Trinity and the only begotten Son of God.

    Not necessarily so fellow bloggers. Meet the non Trinitarians. Here the divinity of Jesus and the trinity are debated according to scripture. Can it be that there is variation in Christian belief? I thought that was only a “Muslim thing.”

     
  • buzz 10:58 pm on September 7, 2009 | 11 Permalink | Reply
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    Did I say something wrong?

    Did I say something wrong?

    The cost of leaving will be abandoning people like this

    Parwiz Kambakhsh, the 20-year old student/journalist who was first sentenced to death, then secretly sentenced to 20 years in prison last December has been freed and has left Afghanistan. Sources told Kabul Press that Parwiz was released from prison several days ago to visit with his family, then was taken to an unknown destination outside Afghanistan. It is unlikely that he will return to Afghanistan any time soon due to threats against him and his family for his alleged “blasphemy” for distributing an article on women’s rights to a few friends at his university—which he firmly denies.

    Source: Kabul Press

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  • johnpi 6:54 am on August 29, 2009 | 0 Permalink | Reply
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    Saudiwoman is heartened by the response to the assassination attempt against Prince Mohammed bin Nayef.

    Since the news got out there has been this outpour at not only the political but also at the cultural and social level. On Facebook, one Saudi suggests that all men dressed like muttawa should be stopped and questioned. On a more serious level, major newspapers include articles that only begin with the assassination attempt and from there the authors and comment posters criticize the whole religious fundamentalist movement within the country concerning education, human rights and domestic tourism.
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    Since March the religious puritans have been getting louder and more powerful; more muttawa raids in malls, cancellations of plays and festivals, and even statements by high-ranking officials that were obviously made only to appease these fundamentalists. The assassination attempt has empowered people to speak out. And so has apparently turned the tide in favor of the average Saudi, even if only temporarily.

     
  • thabet 6:24 am on August 28, 2009 | 0 Permalink | Reply
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    Ziaul Haq’s ‘decade of darkness’.

     
  • buzz 1:14 pm on August 10, 2009 | 7 Permalink | Reply
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    What happens when an idiot alcoholic evangelical gets elected president by lies and deceit and then mobilized by fear and panic? The answer at Council for Secular Humanism (h/t: eteraz )

    Incredibly, President George W. Bush told French President Jacques Chirac in early 2003 that Iraq must be invaded to thwart Gog and Magog, the Bible’s satanic agents of the Apocalypse.

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  • thabet 9:58 pm on September 22, 2008 | 0 Permalink | Reply
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    Some numbers behind fundamentalism and politics in the US.

     
  • thabet 6:00 am on September 18, 2008 | 0 Permalink | Reply
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    Ahmed Rashid says Pakistan is “in a downward spiral towards becoming a failed state”.

    Note his comments about foreign policy. While the foreign policies of the US are (rightfully) lambasted, what tended to be glossed over were the foreign policies of Muslim countries like Pakistan and Saudi Arabia:

    Promising democracy, economic development, moderation and an end to training jihadi fighters who had become the army’s front line in projecting [Pakistan's] foreign policy and fuelling the wars in Afghanistan and the insurgency in Indian-administered Kashmir, in reality the military continued to pursue the same old games.

    By allowing the growth of Islamic extremism and the mushrooming of thousands of new madrassas in the country, the military considered economic and political stability an afterthought.

     
  • thabet 9:42 am on September 9, 2008 | 3 Permalink | Reply
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    What’s the difference between Sarah Palin and Muslim fundamentalists?

    Lipstick.

     
  • thabet 2:20 am on August 3, 2008 | 0 Permalink | Reply
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    The growing power of fundamentalist evangelical Christianity in the U.S. military.

     
  • razib, murtad fitri 12:55 am on July 19, 2008 | 3 Permalink | Reply
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    A Veil Closes France’s Door to Citizenship:
    Ms. Silmi’s husband, a former bus driver who says he is finding it hard to get work because of his beard, dreams of moving his family to Morocco or Saudi Arabia. “We don’t feel welcome here,” he said. “I am French, but I can’t really say that I am proud of it right now.”

    i’m willing to contribute to a fund to relocate muslim fundamentalists to muslim majority countries, preferably saudi arabia. any pointers?   also, we should give monetary incentives to theonomists/reconstructionists to move to african countries where fundamentalist christianity is really popular.

     
  • thabet 2:03 am on May 22, 2008 | 2 Permalink | Reply
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    Sunny Hundal says ‘Christian fundamentalism’ has arrived in Britain. I am not so certain, but we shall see.

     
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