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	<title>Talk Islam &#187; Franciscans</title>
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	<description>a crescent waxing eloquent</description>
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		<title>So I have been working on the portrayal  &#8230;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[So I have been working on the portrayal of Islam in early Franciscan documents (especially the various lives of St.Francis), and ran across this little tidbit, in David Burr&#8217;s Spiritual Franciscans,  about two of my favorite Franciscans: Peter John Olivi and Ubertino da Casale (of Name of the Rose fame).  Olivi argues, for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I have been working on the portrayal of Islam in early Franciscan documents (especially the various lives of St.Francis), and ran across this little tidbit, in David Burr&#8217;s <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Franciscans-Protest-Persecution-Century/dp/0271023090/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1210518565&amp;sr=8-1" rel="external">Spiritual Franciscans</a></em>,  about two of my favorite Franciscans: Peter John Olivi and Ubertino da Casale (of <em>Name of the Rose</em> fame).  Olivi argues, for instance, in his commentary on the Apocalypse of John (1298) that</p>
<blockquote><p>Continued decay of the Church will lead to rule by a pseudopope who, with the aid of a secular authority, will support a carnal version of Christianity, persecuting those  who observe evangelical poverty.  These carnal leaders and the carnal church which they represent (Babylon) will eventually be destroyed  by a non-Christian (presumably Muslim) army.  Thus will end the persecution of the mystical Antichrist, but that of the great Antichrist will then begin.  Another king/pseudopope combination will join in a persecution aimed more explicitly at Christianity itself.  Here, too, Olivi seems to anticipate an important role for Islam.  Finally, with Christ&#8217;s aid, this second persecution will end and the seventh period will begin.</p></blockquote>
<p>All this of course so that the renewal of Christian life initiated by Francis could reach its consummation.</p>
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