Tom Friedman says we should be funding scholarships, not tanks, in the middle east. It’s a nice thought, but Abu Muqawama throws some cold water on it.
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aziz
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Things in Syria continue to deteriorate – the best source is Al Jazeera’s live-blog and of course following Andy Carvin on Twitter.
Leaning towards fake, but still investigating. RT @blakehounshell: What’s the consensus on this Syria buried alive video? Fake?
— Andy Carvin (@acarvin) April 26, 2012
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aziz
Anti-Mubarak graffiti in the new Call of Duty video game:
Though, the game setting seems to be Somalia?
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aziz
via Ottomans and Zionists: predicting the outcome of the Arab Spring:
http://ottomansandzionists.wordpress.com/2012/03/30/predicting-the-outcome-of-the-arab-spring/
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aziz
Shelling on the town of Baba Amr in #Syria – here’s video of the moment Alsaman Mosque minaret was hit.
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aziz
Some facebook resources for the Damascene massacres in #Syria:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/تنسيقية-الثورة-السورية-في-مسرابا-ريف-دمشق/162632447157928
http://www.facebook.com/ShaamNews?ref=pb
http://www.facebook.com/SyrianRevolutionGeneralCommission?ref=pb
http://www.facebook.com/monasiqoon?ref=pb
Also, Andy Carvin (@acarvin is a must-follow.
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aziz
A Tale of Two Fatwas: honor killings are haraam; twitter is for “promoting lies”
the former is a response to the Shafia case, the latter to the Arab Spring. It’s clear that there’s an emergent divide in the Ummah and I it’s clear one side’s grip on authority is failing.
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aziz
#Tahrir Square on #Jan25 – just a few of the amazing photos:
http://blog.beliefnet.com/cityofbrass/2012/01/tahrir-square-on-jan25two-in-pictures.html
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aziz
short film on Egyptian social fallout:
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shams
71% of the parliament seats are now held by either the Muslim Brotherhood or Noor.
spit in one hand, and wish in the other Aziz.-
shams
does this mean that the American 50 year strategy of “Searching for Ataturk” is now as failed as COIN?
because, like, there was only one Ataturk.
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shams
and Mubarak wasnt him.
i predict Imran Khan as the next PM of Pakistan in 2013.
what do you think Aziz?
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I have long considered Spengler (David P Goldman) to be a top financial analyst. Even if you don’t agree with his politics.
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aziz
i dont see a problem there. The MB is much more governance minded than Islamists would be. the political process forces ideologies to come to the table.
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shams
WTF are “Islamists”?
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shams
and you are totes clueless if you think Imran Khan isnt gunna be BEEG PROBLEM for the USA in Pak.
He led the Arab Spring style sit-in that shut down the NATO supply routes last spring.
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aziz
In “Art and the Arab Spring”, Daanish Faruqi argues that art deserves a prominent position in revolutionary politics, but as “signposts, not as overt political manifestos.”
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/01/20121612493122450.html
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shams
i’d rather talk about this, but it is probably not covalent with your peacemaker agenda, Aziz.
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shams
bad juju.
The Afghan Taliban Thursday denounced the video as “barbaric.”
“This is a barbaric act. Over the past 10 years there have been hundreds of similar cases that were not revealed,” Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahed told AFP.
If authenticated, the images — which conjure up previous abuses committed by US troops during the decade-long war — could spark deep anger and resentment in Afghanistan and the wider Muslim world.
A military official who asked not to be named said the helmet and weapon carried by one of the men seems to indicate the four could be members of an elite sniper team.-
aziz
not that bad. The Taliban say it won’t affect the peace talks. Now that’s quite significant if you think about it.
http://news.yahoo.com/u-marines-probe-video-men-urinating-taliban-corpses-002421198.html
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shams
and you believe that western media spin.
it has ALREADY AFFECTED THE TALKS.
Karzai has postponed them.look Aziz. this is what sleeper and i are talking about. how do you read open source to see what is actually happening?
For months Panetta and the western media spun Iraq as wanting to amend the SOFA. that was a lie.
Muqtada made amending the SOFA into political death poison for Iraqi politicians.
it was NEVAH gunna happen.
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I’m thoroughly lost. Sadr and SOFA are Iraq issues, they have nothing to do with Afghanistan and the Taliban. Maybe it’s because I just cleared the driveway of snow and I haven’t had any coffee yet but your analogy just flew over my overeducated head.
what and who are the dinar traders??
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shams
im talking about media spin. picking that one line from the Taliban’s statement for a headline is media spin.
OF COURSE the marines urinating on muslim corpses is gunna have a HUGE effect. It already affected the negotiations. Karzai shut them down.
The Iraqi dinar traders are the people who are making a living from currents and eddies in Iraqi politics. They are accurate– they have to be.What sleeper and i are talking about is how to see past the media gatekeepers that are selling narratives to the truth of the Open Source intel.
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shams
“they have nothing to do with Afghanistan and the Taliban.”
Oh yes they DO. Both Iraq and A-stan were COIN operations. Both were always doomed to fail.
Because when muslims are democratically empowered to vote, they vote for islamic democracy. They never vote for missionary democracy with freedom of speech and freedom of religion.that is the beauty of democracy.
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shams
here, my habbibi. i will give you a chance here.
Marines identified.
who is guilty? Petraeus, Bush, Obama, the Joint Chiefs, the Pentagon?
America required those boys to kill “insurgents” to “defend” us.
Do we really get to complain about them urinating on corpses?
It WAS a war between Islam and America.
We lost.
Can we go home NAOW?
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shams
the whole Bush “Freedom Agenda” was doomed to fail. Peaceful Democracy theory is crap. COIN is crap. The Bush Doctrine is crap.
Because it cant be done.
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shams
“its not that bad”
riiiight.Jan Mohammad Khan, a Taliban fighter in eastern Afghanistan, says the video affected him more than all the carnage that he’s seen in his 10 years in the jihad. “I have never hurt so much as I did when I saw this video,” he says. “These Americans have crossed the borders of civilization and humanity by disrespecting the dead.”
Perhaps the full repercussions of the video have yet to be felt. “These four guys really poked a stick into a hornets’ nest,” says an Afghan who worked as a translator for the U.S. forces in Helmand province for several years and doesn’t want to be identified. “This will stir up both fighters and most Afghans to hate Americans in Afghanistan more.” But he says he was not surprised when he saw the video online. He remembers seeing U.S. soldiers urinating on a village path while Afghan women were passing by, returning home carrying water containers on their heads. “I told them they shouldn’t do these things that make the people angry,” he recalls. “But they laughed and didn’t seem to care.” During his time with the U.S. military he says he saw many U.S. troops openly violating Afghan customs and sensitivities.
The former translator who lives in Kabul with his family says the video has outraged even his normally calm and moderate father. “This morning my father was so angry that he ordered me to burn any money I may still have from the Americans as it was a sin to keep it,” he says. “If this action has so angered my father, it will certainly anger other common Afghans.” If so, the already difficult fledgling peace process has just become even more complicated.
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aziz
well, if you lost Jan Mohammed Khan, a *Taliban fighter*, then surely you’ve lost the common Afghan /eyeroll
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shams
AMG do you not understand social media at all?
The world has changed.
srsly.
already the Taliban have besieged the American Embassy with TWO fighters.
already the Taliban have assassinated Karzai’s brother in his own office.
when the US GTFOs A-stan the Taliban are gunna roll into Kabul and dip Karzais head in tar (Game of Thrones reference) and put it on a pike on top of the American embassy.
Imran Khan is gunna be the next PM of Pakistan.
And he doan liek us.
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shams
wallah…everthing i link is subject to censorship?
fine.
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shams, 
THE are discussing. 
Russia is siding with Assad and France is siding with the opposition. Syria is becoming a Gordian Knot. All the more reason not to get too involved militarily yet.