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	<title>Talk Islam &#187; alcohol</title>
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		<title>page 141 of A History of Iran: Empire of &#8230;</title>
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Alcohol seems to have played a significant part in the poor showing of later Safavid monarchs. From the time of Shah Esma&#8217;il and before, drinking sessions had been a part of the group rituals of the Qezelbash [religious order which conquered iran under shah esmai'l], [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>page 141 of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0465008887/geneexpressio-20/">A History of Iran: Empire of the Mind</a><br />
<em>Alcohol seems to have played a significant part in the poor showing of later Safavid monarchs. From the time of Shah Esma&#8217;il and before, drinking sessions had been a part of the group rituals of the Qezelbash [religious order which conquered iran under shah esmai'l], building probably on the ancient practices of the Mongols and the Turkic tribes in Central Asia, but also on ghuluww Sufi practice and the Persian tradition of razm o bazm - fighting and feasting&#8230;.</em></p>
<p>when i was younger i had a rather simple view of religion.  in short, i viewed religion as the straightforward working out of inferences from axioms of belief.  when i would read about things like this my own assumption was that this was just deviation from &#8216;correct&#8217; inferences.</p>
<p>in hindsight i think i turned religion simply into an inverse of my atheism, a spare set of assertions about the nature of the world as an objective entity.  today i think i truly did not understand how religion was lived, in large part because i have never evinced much interest in the religious sensibility myself.  instead of a mathematical formalism i now believe that religion as it is lived resembles art more than a science. this does not mean that i do not believe it is futile to analyze religion as a natural phenomenon, but art is a very difficult thing to get a tractable grasp on&#8230;.</p>
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