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One of my most controversial posts ever: Easter in Islam.
To any Christian folk here at TI, I sincerely hope you read the post in the spirit it was intended. Happy Easter.
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“They Killed Him Not”: The Crucifixion in Shi‘a Isma‘ili Islam
Speaking of Easter, someone posted an intriguing if quite unorthodox defense of Easter based on some early (and rather outlying) Islamic sources.
I am as interested as anyone in getting lost in the details of these cross Abrahamic discussions. Indeed, I have participated in and even co-led many Jewish-Muslim text studies comparing the stories of different prophets mentioned in the Torah and the Qur’an. I really love it and I learn a lot.
Yet, I think one thing that we should constantly remind ourselves, especially when it comes to the Qur’an, is not to get lost in details mentioned in different tafaseer and lose sight of what is and what is not mentioned in the Qur’an. One thing, we can be sure of, if it is not mentioned in the Qur’an it is not essential to the lesson the Qur’an is trying to teach. This doesn’t mean there is not benefit possibly in some other details, but they are not esential to the message.
I think this is importan to frame all the other discussion, it is not meant at all to discount it. I recommend Todd Lawson’s book, The Crucifixion in the Qur’an: A study in the history of Muslim thought to those interested in the different ways Muslims have understood these ayat, but again I encourage everyone to continually ask, what did Allah choose to focus on and what is the message for us.
Allah knows best.
I agree that the Quitr’an should begin the debate, but to argue that mentioning different tafseer somehow “loses sight” of the Qur’an itself is to misunderstand teh purpose of tafseer.
In fact, dismissing tafseer ion that basis is a form of tafseer itself – it’s fine if you want to disagree with someone, but you cant dismiss it out of hand.
Sorry the Lawson book is “The Crucifixion and the Qur’an”
Lawson is consistently quoted by the author in the article I linked above. I have read this book but it was not an easy read for me (I don’t have good enough background in Christianity).
I encourage everyone to continually ask, what did Allah choose to focus on and what is the message for us.
This is rather confusing. Hope you are not suggesting Allah chose to focus on something at one point in time and then left us wondering for the eternity on that specific point or points.
Life is a continuation, creation is a continuation, it is never a constant.
That’s my context.
Not sure if I understand your question AA, although I guess I see why my point could be confusing. I can’t say I understand what you mean by “life is a continuation, creation is a continuation, it is never a constant.”
My point is simply this, Allah said what he said about the crucifixion of Isa (as). The fact that Allah (swt) does not mention whether another person was crucified in Isa’s place or who that person was means that those questions, while not worthless, are not essential to the message Allah has for us.
I encourage people to study different tafaseer and even think there is great value for some people, although certainly not everyone to study what other traditions teach about certain events. When we gather all that data, though, my point is we should take our cues as to what is truly important about something and the lessons it has for us from what Allah (swt) chooses to draw our attention to in the Qur’an and then to what the Prophet (saw) choose to draw our attention to in any hadith that may explain the ayat.
Do you see what I am saying?
while not worthless, are not essential to the message Allah has for us.
I can agree with that. In terms of context, the Good Friday/Easter weekend is just an opportunity, and it doesn’t really mean that people are overemphasizing.
BTW, speaking of different tafaseer, let me plug in this book which is very handy.
An Anthology of Qur’anic Commentaries – Volume I: On the Nature of the Divine
The good part about this book is that you’d get to read most of the Sunni scholars (majority) with Shi’as (minority) on the same topic, along with good introduction of historical personalities.
I own this book, and I second the recommendation…the paperback is available on Amazon and not that expensive
Aziz, you’ve completely misunderstood what I said. I suggest rereading my comment.
maybe i just dont understand the way teh critique applies, then. Its a very general statement to make – what aspects of the fundamental of what teh QUr’an and Allah is focusing on, is being missed, in the links shared by AA and svend? do you have a specific ccritique?
My comment was not meant to be a critique of the views linked to by Svend or AA, just a contribution to the larger discussion.
Sorry if that was not clear.
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