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Having debated him before, I genuinely didn’t think it was possible for any President to concoct an assertion of executive power and secrecy that would be excessive and alarming to David Rivkin, but Barack Obama managed to do that, too. Obama’s now asserting a power so radical — the right to kill American citizens and do so in total secrecy, beyond even the reach of the courts — that it’s “too harsh even for” one of the most far-right War on Terror cheerleading-lawyers in the nation. But that power is certainly not “too harsh” for the kind-hearted Constitutional Scholar we elected as President, nor for his hordes of all-justifying supporters soon to place themselves to the right of David Rivkin as they explain why this is all perfectly justified. One other thing, as always: vote Democrat, because the Republicans are scary
Abu Noor Al-Irlandee, 
shams, 
Hitch, and 2 others are discussing.
Dan 1:53 pm on September 28, 2010 Permalink
So abu noor, what’s wrong with having a POS like Anwar al-Awlaki murdered? You think he’s a good role model for American Muslims, in spite of the fact that he supported the attempted bombing of an airliner by Umar Abdulmutallab?
Abu Noor Al-Irlandee 2:58 pm on September 28, 2010 Permalink
Shockingly enough Dan, no I don’t think the President, the U.S. government, or anyone else has the right to go around killing whomever they claim, rightly or wrongly, to be a “POS”
Qu’ran 5:8 O you who believe! Stand out firmly for Allah and be just witnesses and let not the enmity and hatred of others make you avoid justice. Be just: that is nearer to piety, and fear Allah. Verily, Allah is Well-Acquainted with what you do.
MikeLyons 6:27 pm on September 28, 2010 Permalink
Letting a President, any President of any party, have the power of assassinating an American citizen is a dangerous precedent that I am solidly against.
Alwaki may be deserving of a dirt nap but it shouldn’t be up to a Presidential order
Dan 6:31 pm on September 28, 2010 Permalink
So by that token, you agree that the ‘shariat’-obsessed wackos who bomb and murder innocent civilians fall under that as well right? I mean I’m sure you also don’t find it acceptable by Anwar al-Awlaki to call for the murder of Molly Norris, right? Or is that okay since after all, he is a Muslim and we shouldn’t be criticizing those who want to impose Islam forcibly throughout the world /sarcasm
Because most conservative Muslims often turn a blind eye to the crimes of Islamists as long as Shariah is established.
shams 6:52 pm on September 28, 2010 Permalink
al-Awlaki is not a muslim if he calls for the deaths of the innocent.
He is, however, a US citizen and has US citizen rights.
Abu Noor Al-Irlandee 8:22 am on September 29, 2010 Permalink
Dan, I’m not a “conservative” anything. Other than that, you prove yourself a waste of time to respond to.
shams 9:10 am on September 29, 2010 Permalink
if the US wants to assassinate US citizens, it should first strip them of citizenship.
Dan 3:08 pm on September 29, 2010 Permalink
So why hasn’t Anwar Al-Awlaki renounced his US citizenship already?
Abu Noor, don’t get offended just because you have a soft spot for this man. I guess in your mind any Salafi is a pious man even if he supports blowing up airliners. What a joke. Always condemning Obama for this, yet turning a blind eye to his call to murder Molly Norris. How’s that for hypocrisy coming from you?
Hitch 3:34 pm on September 29, 2010 Permalink
Defending a person’s constitutional’s rights (here the 5th Amendment specifically) has nothing to do with having any affection for that person.
That you imply otherwise reflects poorly on you, not on others.
Abu Noor Al-Irlandee 11:09 am on September 30, 2010 Permalink
Dan, you simply have no idea what you are talking about, when it comes to me at least, among I’m sure many other topics.
Believe me there are interesting questions to discuss here, and there are most certainly countless legitimate criticisms one could make of myself, including ones of hypocrisy, but the specific arguments you usually make are just made up and false. Which is why I said it’s not worth responding to you. It’s too bad, really, becasue I actually enjoy interacting with serious people who disagree with me.
Peace.
shams 6:47 pm on September 30, 2010 Permalink
does that include me?
/hopes silently
Abu Noor Al-Irlandee 6:30 am on October 1, 2010 Permalink
Most of the time, Shams