Aziz made an interesting comparison in one of the Major Hasan threads…..he said this could have easily happened during the Viet Nam era.
I am pretty attuned to contemporary music culture, and I think, like during Viet Nam, we are seeing cultural harbingers of a wholistic cultural rejection of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Green Day’s antiwar anthem 21 Guns won VMA song of the year, and like Brother Buzz pointed out the “jukebox” musical made on their album American Idiot is a box office sellout on the West Coast.
Youth culture was the leading edge of the wave that got us out of the unjust quagmire of Viet Nam.
This disturbing MGMT dancetrack…..Kids… is currently pegging the popularity meters and infusing the alternative airwaves along with The Offspring’s Hammerhead.
I think when a culture begins to reject a policy….it first shows up in the arts.
Just like Viet Nam…..I predict America is going to gtfo.
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Shams al-Nahar

Buzz 12:46 pm on November 13, 2009 Permalink |
America is tired of war. For the duration of the bush administration, we were concerned with “winning.” I don’t think the majority care about winning anymore. Insiders and people who are focused on the details know that we are in an inenviable screwed if you do / screwed if you don’t position. Inside, military contractors/suppliers want this to drag on. Outside, we have few allies in the middle east. They hate us if we stay and hate us if we leave. Either way, they will take our Billions and lie in our face about what we need to know. All the governments are fragmented and corrupt beyond repair.
They hate us. They hate each other. They hate themselves. F**k ‘em! No more money. Go to hell. Let’s get out. We can fight the taliban when they take over and settle all this over the inevitable nuclear holocaust.
abunoor 12:53 pm on November 13, 2009 Permalink |
Via Yglesias, Gallup’s latest polling on the war in Afghanistan
There is a plurality that favors beginning to pullout, and a large group that wants to give the generals increased troops they are asking for.
The interesting aspects of public opinion are that few people are in the middle, and that the majority of Obama’s supporters who voted for him cause he promised change are in favor of beginning to pull out. Those who want to increase troops in Afghanistan are largely thosse that have not and never would support Obama.