Absolutely true. I have been enjoying the buzz without the kill.

…but I thank Allaah (swt) and then Dan and Buzz for reminding me of these important truths.

was completely sarcastic. My mistake.

As someone who accused me of anti-Islamic rhetoric, I did not connect that he was actually being sincere. He made that clear later. So, I shot back a little sarcasm. As it turns out, I should not have done that, but if you look at the flow, it was not clear to me atleast what he was saying.

Anyway, I guess I should have been more patient and assumed that Abu Noor would fall back on traditional Islamic courtesy which is kind of his MO. I was actually surprised that I got bundled in with Dan on some disagreement they were having about Hijab or something.

Anyway, for my part, even though I think by standards of past behavior, I was actually restrained, I am sorry for any misunderstanding or insult.

What bothered me, buzz, is that in the midst of this theoretically adult conversation you ‘reminded’ Abu N to admit no partners with Allah, as if he’d suggested adding And Edward is the True Soulmate of Bella to the shaheda or something. Every time a hardliner wanders through here and even hints at takfir, we come down on him/her like a ton of bricks. And it works–this is one of the most takfir-free Islamic forums on the web. Abu N doesn’t need an aqidah lesson, even a sarcastic one. If the salafis don’t get to run around calling the most basic elements of people’s faith into question, neither do the progressives. If a militant said that to you, even in sarcasm, we’d have chucked him out on his ass. You know we would have. The respect has to go both ways. Otherwise we’re all just a bunch of posers.

I did not realize Abu Noor was apologizing. I thought he pulled out his Koran and condemned me as some “type” he keeps forgetting about. I honestly did not understand the comment.

I would not refuse any honest apology.

I appreciate your administrative efforts but please don’t overdo it. We are all adults here. We can get by even without your patronizing overtones. The discussion was in disagreement but no one was drawing blood.

Razib, throwing something like this anyway, gotta stop reading this website. the more i do, the more islamophobic i get in the faces of people who invited you here and have tried to insulate and defend you is just f*cking low. You want to leave, leave. You want to stay, stay. This crap is unworthy of you.

And you. Buzz and Dan. “Word”. The twins. It’s starting to sound like a self-hating echo chamber in here. I don’t always agree with Abu N either, but let me tell you, if I’d apologized to you and you came back at me with that kind of sarcasm I’d have unloaded on you and not felt bad about it even once. Abu N must have nerves of steel.

Everybody take a couple of deep knee-bends and get over it, mmkay? Aziz is away for a few days and I’m in hall monitor mode again.

And this is the Internet so it is hard to take things seriously. I sometimes have sarcastic remarks, but I should learn to use italics next time to make it easier.

Apology accepted.

Please forgive me.

Thank you for your advice. I apologize if I misunderstood or misrepresented your remarks.

Regardless of our differences, I do think it was a mistake of me to just lump you and Dan together. It was done out of laziness, but I know that I don’t appreciate when people just lump me together with others who are really coming with different points than I am.

Please forgive me for my mistakes.