Comments on: Act of stupidity: Two people shot at Hol… http://talkislam.info/2009/06/10/act-of-stupidity-two-people-shot-at-hol/ a crescent waxing eloquent Sat, 20 Mar 2010 08:37:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: aziz http://talkislam.info/2009/06/10/act-of-stupidity-two-people-shot-at-hol/#comment-7576 aziz Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:43:24 +0000 http://talkislam.info/2009/06/10/act-of-stupidity-two-people-shot-at-hol/#comment-7576 it wasn't unique. There were equivalent-scale genocides under communist rule in the far east in the 20th century and on the North American continent during the colonial era. The Holocaust was a human tragedy and belongs to all humankind, not just Jews. By setting it apart and distancing ourselves from it, and validating teh right-wing jewish attempt to preserve it as a unique marker of their sole victimization, we help ensure that it will happen again. it wasn’t unique. There were equivalent-scale genocides under communist rule in the far east in the 20th century and on the North American continent during the colonial era.

The Holocaust was a human tragedy and belongs to all humankind, not just Jews. By setting it apart and distancing ourselves from it, and validating teh right-wing jewish attempt to preserve it as a unique marker of their sole victimization, we help ensure that it will happen again.

]]> By: thabet http://talkislam.info/2009/06/10/act-of-stupidity-two-people-shot-at-hol/#comment-7566 thabet Thu, 11 Jun 2009 06:29:47 +0000 http://talkislam.info/2009/06/10/act-of-stupidity-two-people-shot-at-hol/#comment-7566 Doesn't seem to affect c<a href="https://www.ijnet.org/ijnet/training_opportunities/iran_and_turkey_to_boost_broadcasting_cooperation" rel="nofollow">ertain aspect</a>s of <a href="http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/49255/turkey-to-fund-investment-in-iran-natural-gas-deal-alone.html" rel="nofollow">Turkish-Iranian relations</a> though. Doesn’t seem to affect certain aspects of Turkish-Iranian relations though.

]]> By: plimfix http://talkislam.info/2009/06/10/act-of-stupidity-two-people-shot-at-hol/#comment-7563 plimfix Thu, 11 Jun 2009 05:54:08 +0000 http://talkislam.info/2009/06/10/act-of-stupidity-two-people-shot-at-hol/#comment-7563 BuzzK, I think there is something unique about Shoa. This was a continent wide massacre (Most European nations included plenty of people who helped the Nazis kill Jews), the first to be carried out in a systematic, industrial way over such a protacted period of time. European Jews - ashkenazis - were almost wiped out. Its location, it's use of imperialist racism, and its links to long-standing Christian anti-Semitism, demand it be seen as crucial to the unwinding of some of the less pleasant threads of European history. European Nazis' focus on holocaust denial is no coincidence - it is crucial to them rewriting histories of nationalisms as unproblematic. BuzzK, I think there is something unique about Shoa. This was a continent wide massacre (Most European nations included plenty of people who helped the Nazis kill Jews), the first to be carried out in a systematic, industrial way over such a protacted period of time. European Jews – ashkenazis – were almost wiped out. Its location, it’s use of imperialist racism, and its links to long-standing Christian anti-Semitism, demand it be seen as crucial to the unwinding of some of the less pleasant threads of European history. European Nazis’ focus on holocaust denial is no coincidence – it is crucial to them rewriting histories of nationalisms as unproblematic.

]]> By: BuzzK http://talkislam.info/2009/06/10/act-of-stupidity-two-people-shot-at-hol/#comment-7560 BuzzK Thu, 11 Jun 2009 05:05:18 +0000 http://talkislam.info/2009/06/10/act-of-stupidity-two-people-shot-at-hol/#comment-7560 Hey, the pile on has been great. I stand by what I said, no half recap by Aziz is gonna change that. But I will move on. Hey, the pile on has been great.
I stand by what I said, no half recap by Aziz is gonna change that.
But I will move on.

]]> By: BuzzK http://talkislam.info/2009/06/10/act-of-stupidity-two-people-shot-at-hol/#comment-7559 BuzzK Thu, 11 Jun 2009 05:03:57 +0000 http://talkislam.info/2009/06/10/act-of-stupidity-two-people-shot-at-hol/#comment-7559 Oh wait. I just read what you wrote. Oh dear. Nevermind... Oh wait. I just read what you wrote. Oh dear.
Nevermind…

]]> By: BuzzK http://talkislam.info/2009/06/10/act-of-stupidity-two-people-shot-at-hol/#comment-7558 BuzzK Thu, 11 Jun 2009 05:01:16 +0000 http://talkislam.info/2009/06/10/act-of-stupidity-two-people-shot-at-hol/#comment-7558 Cool. A smart person. Cool. A smart person.

]]> By: BuzzK http://talkislam.info/2009/06/10/act-of-stupidity-two-people-shot-at-hol/#comment-7557 BuzzK Thu, 11 Jun 2009 05:00:32 +0000 http://talkislam.info/2009/06/10/act-of-stupidity-two-people-shot-at-hol/#comment-7557 That is a totally great analogy. I had no idea how much Iran supported Armenia or how much influence Armenia weighed on Iran. VERY interesting That is a totally great analogy. I had no idea how much Iran supported Armenia or how much influence Armenia weighed on Iran.
VERY interesting

]]> By: thabet http://talkislam.info/2009/06/10/act-of-stupidity-two-people-shot-at-hol/#comment-7556 thabet Thu, 11 Jun 2009 04:55:11 +0000 http://talkislam.info/2009/06/10/act-of-stupidity-two-people-shot-at-hol/#comment-7556 Interesting. Didn't know that. You really do learn something everyday. Interesting. Didn’t know that. You really do learn something everyday.

]]> By: aziz http://talkislam.info/2009/06/10/act-of-stupidity-two-people-shot-at-hol/#comment-7552 aziz Thu, 11 Jun 2009 04:06:15 +0000 http://talkislam.info/2009/06/10/act-of-stupidity-two-people-shot-at-hol/#comment-7552 I'm a pretty smart person but I confess that I am not intelligent enough to understand what relevance the existence of a Holocaust museum has to the past 8 years, Iraq, influence in the world, etc. Connect the dots? backwards in time? or did the Holocaust somehow cause the Iraq war?I know youre blaming Jews for something here, but damned if I can figure out what. oh wait - are you suggesting that neocons are all Jews, and everything the Bush Adminstration did was because Israel was pulling the strings? Because somehow a massive invasion of Iraq, regional instability, arms race with Iran, and exacerbation of the Hezbollah threat were all desirable outcomes? I’m a pretty smart person but I confess that I am not intelligent enough to understand what relevance the existence of a Holocaust museum has to the past 8 years, Iraq, influence in the world, etc.

Connect the dots? backwards in time? or did the Holocaust somehow cause the Iraq war?I know youre blaming Jews for something here, but damned if I can figure out what.

oh wait – are you suggesting that neocons are all Jews, and everything the Bush Adminstration did was because Israel was pulling the strings? Because somehow a massive invasion of Iraq, regional instability, arms race with Iran, and exacerbation of the Hezbollah threat were all desirable outcomes?

]]> By: johnpi http://talkislam.info/2009/06/10/act-of-stupidity-two-people-shot-at-hol/#comment-7547 johnpi Thu, 11 Jun 2009 02:51:35 +0000 http://talkislam.info/2009/06/10/act-of-stupidity-two-people-shot-at-hol/#comment-7547 <a href="http://www.armenian-genocide.org/memorials.html" rel="nofollow">Here's a list of countries that have Armenian genocide memorials.</a> Here’s a list of countries that have Armenian genocide memorials.

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