Endnote to Whiteness Debate
The recent ugliness over white Muslims stuck in my craw a little bit. I thought about staying quiet since my thoughts on this issue will likely be a bucket of cold water, but there’s some stuff I feel needs to be said. If you’re a white convert and you’re not in the mood for cold water, sit this one out. I’m not kidding. I’m in dream-crushing mode.
The reason I don’t like discussions about the situation of white Muslims as a community, or the power relationships between white converts and their birth culture (ie, the loss or retention of white privilege), is because I do not believe there is any such thing as a white Muslim community. There is only a white Muslim here, a white Muslim there. The very fact that we have chosen to be part of this religion means that our experiences are radically divergent from the majority of other white westerners. What those experiences were differs quite a bit from convert to convert. Some people were unhappy with the status quo and saw Islam as a purer, more moral way of living. Some married in. Some had spiritual epiphanies. Some started out in other Abrahamic faiths but felt there was something missing. The differences don’t stop there: we’re from different classes, different parts of the West, different cultural backgrounds. In other words, despite the fact that we try and try to build a single narrative for ourselves, we have very little in common.
We are not a community. We are statistical outliers. A tiny minority in a religion that is overwhelmingly non-white and overwhelmingly non-western. So why do we keep trying to build a narrative about white Muslims? Why so much attention to what we do or do not represent?
Simply put, because the one thing we do have in common is that we were raised at the center of our civilization. Whether we were rich or poor, educated or not, as whites we were the main characters in the story of our culture. Letting go of that expectation–that we will be protagonists in the unfolding saga of our community–is next to impossible, no matter how humble and pure of heart one is. I’m talking about something that runs much deeper than racism here. To me, the impulse to narrative-build, whether self-congratulatory (I have lost white privilege, hurrah!) or self-flaggelating (I can never lose white privilege, oh how I suck) is a symptom of this inability to let go.
We are guests–protectorates, wards, bit players–in the Islamic narrative. If this was a Shakespearean drama, we’d be Second Spear-Holder From The Left. What we contribute to that narrative will, in all probability, never be of direct benefit to us as individuals. We will always be outliers, both in our birth communities and in our religious communities. Our significance, and more importantly, our relevance, is massively exaggerated. By adoring Muslim communities who hold us up as coddled symbols of the power of Islam? Mais non. By ourselves. If we become coddled symbols, it is because we let it happen. And, in all probability, encouraged it. Consciously or unconsciously. Because that is what we were raised to expect: centrality. Whether the story is tragic or comic, it is always about us. If it isn’t, we hardly know what to do with ourselves.
We don’t really represent any experience but our own. There is some freedom in that–approached in the right spirit, it has its advantages. Being an outlier is not the same as being an outcast. But we should resist the urge to create a communal narrative where none exists. There are almost no general statements one can make honestly about white Muslims. Some retain more privilege than others, but the reasons why are not always as clear-cut as habits of dress and social interaction. I wore traditional hijab to a recent comics convention in Seattle. I was the only covered woman in a crowd of many thousands of comics enthusiasts, a population with an anecdotally higher ratio of atheism and heterodox religious ideas than the mainstream. I was curious to see what this would do to my book sales. I sold out before the end of the first day. So I’m not sure I buy the idea that hijab automatically deducts points from one’s social status, or from one’s ‘whiteness’.
I’m not saying we have to gag ourselves or keep silent, though for a long time that is exactly what I thought. But we do have to realize that there is less ‘we’ than we’d like to think.
bingregory 2:18 am on May 26, 2009 Permalink |
Very well said and not at all harsh. We are not a People called White, and there is not nor does there need to be a white muslim American community.
I agree very much that this issue of narrative is deeper than racism. It is the primordial nature of the nafs to put itself at the center of the world. It didn’t occur to me in the context of Islam, but I’ve been painfully aware of it living in Malaysia. There is so much happening in this country politically and socially and yet I haven’t been able to bring myself to say a word on it, because the reality is that my opinion is meaningless in the context of the national discussion, the narrative of the people here, so why interject some random immigrant’s drama into it? It’s an amazing story but it’s not my story.
Truly we are all travelers in this life. Peace.
aziz 6:33 am on May 26, 2009 Permalink |
with respect, i think you’re talking about something different from Willow. You arent putting yourself at teh center of Malasyia by commenting on it or obseving it. Frankly I’ve been a lurker at your site for years and I think your best posts are the ones where you do say something once in a while from your perspective about whats going on in that fascinating place.
Theres a big difference between someone saying “I am important and central to this culture” versus someone saying “here are my observations and thoughts about this culture”. The former may be an excercise in ego but the latter is often tremendously valuable, even to the cultre in question.
Willow 9:14 am on May 26, 2009 Permalink |
For awhile I felt the same way about Egypt, while I was still living there. I remember someone asked me what I thought about Alaa Al Aswany’s controversial novel The Yacoubian Building, which is a harsh critique of the Egyptian status quo, and I said I didn’t feel like I had the right to an opinion. I’d just read Said’s Orientalism and had come to the conclusion that white people were 100% useless, and white Muslims were both useless and problematic. I thought the absolute best thing we could do is shut up for 2-3 generations.
But that’s not living; that’s holding your breath until you die. I think Aziz is right; it’s just a matter of learning to talk about things without coopting the narrative. There are two kinds of Muslim expat blogs: the ones that speak with great insight, humor and humility about the countries in which the authors live, and the ones that obsess about their role in those countries. (What do they see when they look at me? What am I? Who am I? How does this country figure into the grander story of WHO I AM?!) In other words, a desperate attempt to retain centrality, to the point where an entire country becomes the backdrop for your own personal three-act play.
Learning to make the distinction is hard, but not impossible.
razib 4:15 am on May 26, 2009 Permalink |
darn. no gay orgies anywhere then?
Pretty Pink Unicorns 9:31 am on May 26, 2009 Permalink |
Gay orgies above (see: Cardiff official comments on paedophilia).
thabet 9:42 am on May 26, 2009 Permalink |
(That was a joke, PPU.)
plimfix 12:44 am on May 27, 2009 Permalink |
Willow, your assertion is not entirely correct, at least not as far as the UK goes. Read Ron Geaves’ Sufis in Britain. Ron is an ethnologist, and makes a point of distinguishing between those Sufi groups who tend to attract white folks (though not exclusively) and those who are almost always overwhelming monoethnic (e.g Pakistani). Sufism was THE major pull into UK Islam up until the 1970s (and probably beyond that). Murabitun is one example (led by former actor Ian Dallas). Murabitun’s influence is arguably disproportionate because their followers include quite a few upper-middle class white people (Ahmed Thomson is a barrister, for example). So while there might not be a single white community, inside or outside Islam, but there are white communities (plural). However, social class is also important. Zia Sardar’s brother was a member of one of the ‘famous Sufi’ groups in London at one point. Similarly, when I first turned up at Markaz in Dewsbury (European Tablighi HQ) in the 1980s, all the white converts were sat together – because almost all of them were tradesman, expecting everyone to drop everything for 40 days without mentioning they themselves were all self-employed!
thabet 1:46 am on May 27, 2009 Permalink |
Is Yasin Dutton part of the Murabitun too?
plimfix 8:03 am on May 27, 2009 Permalink |
Their Wikipedia entry included a short list of prominent members last time I looked, but the list appears to have been removed.
Safiya Outlines 8:52 am on May 27, 2009 Permalink |
Salaam Aalikum,
I agree the U.K community is different. Demographics mean that the vast bulk of converts are white, hence most convert gatherings are often majority white. So there is a de facto white Muslim community in the U.K.
It’s too easy to conflate Western Islam, but the communities, demographics and viewpoints differ from country to country.
It’s fair to say that the U.K Muslim population is differs in almost every way from the U.S equivalent.
Willow 9:03 am on May 27, 2009 Permalink |
Interesting. But even if the bulk of converts are white, what proportion of the total UK Muslim population is made up of white converts?
Safiya Outlines 9:22 am on May 27, 2009 Permalink |
Salaam Alaikum,
Very small, but converts do tend to get drawn into the convert community, so even though white converts are a statistical minority, if you are a white convert it’s quite possible that most of the Muslims you know are other white converts. So it’s statistical facts versus lived reality. In other words, there is definitely a white Muslim community in the U.K, however small, it exists.
The U.K community is very ethnically divided and demographically, I think about 90 +% of UK Muslims are of Pakistani origin. With such demographics, IME, the smaller ethnic groups will tend to self segregate. So again, the statistics don’t really describe people’s experiences as Muslims.
To give an example of this, it’s very common for different Mosques to celebrate the Eids on different days here.
Again, I think there is a tendency for a rather U.S centric tendency when describing Muslim communities.
thabet 4:17 pm on May 27, 2009 Permalink
90% is too high.
See this breakdown of Muslims in England by ethnic community (based on the 2001 census).
Safiya Outlines 6:25 pm on May 27, 2009 Permalink
Salaam Alaikum,
Interesting statistics. I guess it proves my point further, 10% of the community (and that’s probably a conservative estimate) isn’t that small.
thabet 4:15 am on May 28, 2009 Permalink
FYI, most of that ~10% is ‘White Other’.
4% are described as ‘White British’.
Willow 9:06 am on May 27, 2009 Permalink |
What proportion of people who converted to Sufism in the 70′s A) Consider themselves Muslim and B) Stuck with it? In the US the attrition rate from white-dominated ‘goofy sufi’ groups is fairly high. I grew up in a recovering hippie town, and a lot of residents from my parents’ generation went through a Sufi phase in the late 60′s-70′s. They would be horrified if you suggested they had ever been Muslim. Sufism, in their eyes, is Totally Different. Wine of the beloved and all that.
bingregory 7:47 pm on May 27, 2009 Permalink |
Tangential to that, the role of ‘goofy sufi’ groups such as Pir Vilayat’s SotW in the propagation of Islam in the States is i think an interesting echo of the NOI: Heterodox at best, murky origins, and yet contributing to the permeation of Islamic values, symbols and ideas through the culture. Personally speaking, I know my folks would never have been as accepting of my conversion if they had not had positive contact with the SotW in the 70′s.
BuzzK 3:37 am on May 28, 2009 Permalink |
There are some assumptions here which I concede are common, and I am the exception, and yet I think still need to be raised:
1. There are “Muslim Communities.” Ask a Persian about an Arab or an Arab about anyone else and you will quickly watch the “umma” evaporate into nada. Bemoaning the outlier status of white muslims is like a 3rd generation Italian-American wishing he could be a real Italian. WTF!?!?!
What is the common Muslim experience? The collective American experience? It may exist, but it is so amorphous as to be more challenging to nail down than a good definition of “consciousness.” How did culture and religion become so enmeshed? Lack of faith is lack of good faith.
Whenever I go to a Muslim oriented pot-luck dinner ( holidays, a few times a year ), I see lots of caucasians trying their best to lay down bowls of baba ganouj, kebab, lamb rice dishes, etc. It is an unspoken sign of respect for the various cultures that sustained Islamic traditions over the centuries. No problem. But I always looks for the dude who said, “Eff-it, I’m bringing enchiladas.” What exactly are we trying to prove here by cooking up another culture? Add the beards and the thobes…What a show. There is a script too…
2. Muslim “Converts.” This is a concept which, again, has a hint of truth, but at root is useless. Many religious people find the break with the old and the adoption of the new to be a difficult time. They call this transition “conversion.” “I was a Christian, but now, being Muslim, I believe Jesus was the Son of Mary, not the Son of God. And I don’t drink booze or eat pork.” Congratulations! You’ve converted.
I think it is very wrong and essentially political to look at a Sufi, a Vedantist, a Zen Buddhist and a Quietist Monk as following different paths. They are all headed towards God. Some don’t call It God or Allah. Does it matter? No conversion necessary. Whatever works for the individual.
Being in outlier status, I believe, is a recognition that, from a religious standpoint, and by religion, I mean spiritual, everyone is an individual and will have their own very unique experience. So much so as to call the Holy Qur’an Prophet Muhammad’s Book. Not mine. As a Muslim, I am obliged to call the Qur’an Majid my holy book. As a Mua’min, I think I have the obligation NOT to call that Book mine. That is only imitation. The Qur’an I have to read and follow is written in my heart.
Sure, my thinking isn’t far from Willow’s but there are some differences.
Willow 8:50 am on May 28, 2009 Permalink |
Welcome back, Buzzkill.
BuzzK 1:22 pm on May 28, 2009 Permalink |
Hi Willow! I couldn’t get by anymore without reading You, Aziz, Thabet, et al. I miss Ali Eteraz too. Hasn’t he come out of his occultation yet?
I hope God gives him back to the blogosphere once It is done with him.
aziz 4:37 pm on May 28, 2009 Permalink |
hey, welcome back!
BuzzK 6:13 pm on May 28, 2009 Permalink |
Thanks! I missed this crowd. Muse too.
Muse 8:54 pm on May 28, 2009 Permalink |
Aww you remembered!
Nice to see you back.
razib 8:57 pm on May 28, 2009 Permalink |
white.
Elena 7:52 pm on July 25, 2009 Permalink |
Salaam alaikum all,
what a fun discussion, really. It is not really necessary to speak about anything but Allah, swt, his prophets, esp. Rasulallah, saaws. We, as white muslims, do not need to prove ourselves and as the sister said sometimes it’s best to be quiet. Though, if you are in love with Allah and prophets, especially Rasulallah, saaws, please do talk, share with others your love.
In my personal experience I have found that there is a huge contingent of “goofy sufis” who worship buddha, do not know how to pray and have no idea what Shariat is. They do not come to the masjid, they do not communicate with the Muslim community, because the Muslim community does not accept them. The white Muslims, though, are very much integrated with the rest of the Muslim community, be in the “African” American community, Pakistani, Indian, Fijian or ME, Irani, Afghani, or Somali and other African Muslim communities. The other white Muslims I know do not seem to find difficulty with experiencing Islam through the lenses of other communities, although I have not taken a survey of their experiences. May allah forgive me for blanket stating.
Alhamdulilah, if you have something to say that could benefit someone or provoke them to think about something they may not have felt comfortable discussing, please do. it’s a teachable moment. Today I, regrettably, went to meet Shaykh Muhammad al-Jamal ar-Rifa`i as- Shadhili, the Imam at Masjid Al-aqsa. His followers here, though, were the biggest joke to Ihsan, Islam and Iman that I have ever seen. I had to teach people how to pray, I had to tell them to take down a large buddha from the room during prayer, just a joke, you know. I was offended. It is a great responsibility to be a Muslim and it is a ever greater responsibility to follow a tariqat! I had to call my Ustadz and get him to make dua for me so as to help me seek Allah swt protection from these people. What I realized is that my cynicism was controlling my ability to have an enjoyable time and getting to sit with this Maulana. What I hope this elicits is that we need to get over our own desire of “ownership” of Islam. Be sweet with people, help guide them towards understanding and if you do not understand, seek knowledge. Ya rabbi zidnee almaa.
Thank you dear sister for opening up this idea.
JZK.