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mastablubba

i did say that. but that only goes for *american* christians. in nigeria i doubt there’s a difference. so it’s not *within* religions, but within culture.

it’s subjective, but not useless.

I see what you mean, when comparing within a religion. But when one is comparing the entire world I see it as useless.

I remember someone (I think it was you) saying that a stereotypical conservative “bible-believing” Christian is roughly equivalent to a somewhat “liberal” Muslim. (Liberal Muslim here meaning one that refrains from alcohol, premarital sex, believes in God, but does not make salaah regularly, wear a beard or [for women] wear a headscarf)

In other words, a Muslim that acted like a “very religious” Christian would be seen as lacking

it’s subjective, but not useless. take a look at the rank orders. i’ve looked at these sorts of data myself. they always pass the smell test. the countries with low self-reported rates of religiosity are exactly those you would expect, and those with high self-reports are those you would expect. the american data also goes the same way. states which are stereotypically “bible-believing” are the most religious.

yep. in saudi arabia straight guys have to engage in anal intercourse with gay men (or “experiment” with each other). in iran that’s not necessary, mixed-sex civil society is “vibrant”

no, not muta’a. this is illegal premarital sex.

Surely this isn’t a denial that there is very broad set of publicly imposed behaviors in Iran. Granted, you can’t control everyone all the time, but the Iranian gov’t clearly exerts a lot of direct control over persons life…which by no means indicates that people believe what they are doing in public.

Unless you meant the numbers to show that in fact in areas where the gov’t is unable to easily exert direct control over persons lives we see a clear and rather unsurprising gap.

[mind you, supposing there is a large portion of persons under 35, for instance, engaging in illegal sexual behavior, that clearly hasn't stopped them from self-identifying as religious. it just isn't the ulema's definition of what "religious" means.]

the average age of marriage for iranian women is 35. there was leaked data from an iranian gov. source that large numbers of young iranians are engaging in premarital sex (which is illegal). substantial minorities have had abortions (illegal too).