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  • 02:52:23 pm on July 3, 2008 | # | |
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    page 141 of A History of Iran: Empire of the Mind
    Alcohol seems to have played a significant part in the poor showing of later Safavid monarchs. From the time of Shah Esma’il and before, drinking sessions had been a part of the group rituals of the Qezelbash [religious order which conquered iran under shah esmai'l], building probably on the ancient practices of the Mongols and the Turkic tribes in Central Asia, but also on ghuluww Sufi practice and the Persian tradition of razm o bazm - fighting and feasting….

    when i was younger i had a rather simple view of religion. in short, i viewed religion as the straightforward working out of inferences from axioms of belief. when i would read about things like this my own assumption was that this was just deviation from ‘correct’ inferences.

    in hindsight i think i turned religion simply into an inverse of my atheism, a spare set of assertions about the nature of the world as an objective entity. today i think i truly did not understand how religion was lived, in large part because i have never evinced much interest in the religious sensibility myself. instead of a mathematical formalism i now believe that religion as it is lived resembles art more than a science. this does not mean that i do not believe it is futile to analyze religion as a natural phenomenon, but art is a very difficult thing to get a tractable grasp on….

     
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  • Willow 1:07 am on July 4, 2008 | #

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